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Engineered photosynthesis demonstrated in animals in vivo via synthetic biology (nature.com)
128 points by sethbannon on Dec 7, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 40 comments


This is very interesting. In a limited but substantial way, transplanting parts of the photosynthetic cell system could help with a lot of cell-centric metabolic deficiencies in people, from T1 diabetes to hypoxia in general. The delivery method seems to be cumbersome. But perhaps in the next decade we'll have CRISPR vectors that can deliver genetic information for organelles in a cell, and that could also help with rejection.

Slightly related - this study reminds me of an Andy Weir short story Antihypoxiant - http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/antihypoxiant.html.


If you read that story all the way through, I think it's a good warning against applying "move fast and break things" to biotech.


I have in my head, but have not written down, a sci fi story similar to that- "diybio" where some smart grad students clone cephalopod camoflague genes and make a crispr delivery system to give people the ability to grow moving tattoos that glow (go look at a cuttlefish). They go to burning man and give it away- massive night raves with people dancing around, etc.

based on those good results, they go back to the lab and cook up a general purpose "edit your own genome for free!" project and put all the steps to reproduce it in a github repo. But... after half the world has downloaded and started playing, those burning man people start dying of cancer.


The answer is clear, time to edit more to get rid of the cancer :)


and that's how the zombie plague started


Neat idea! You should write it up.


BioShock vibes. I like it!


For others that may be having similar thoughts, I’ve looked into this before and met this roadblock haha. It’s a great thought experiment for just how much energy a human uses and how much area we need for growing food in the world.

> Our body’s demand for glucose is higher than photosynthesis can accommodate. Associate professor Lindsay Turnbull of the University of Oxford determined that if the surface area of an adult woman contained chlorophyll like a leaf, it would produce only 1% of the daily energy requirements for the person to survive. To live by photosynthesis alone, the woman would need a green body with the surface the size of a tennis court.


It's also worth noting that biological photosynthesis is very inefficient. A human consumes on average about 150 watts. The earth gets about 1400 watts of sunlight per square meter. It's not completely impossible to one day have bio-engineered solar powered animals.


Some napkin math (may be wrong).

A man is about two square meters of skin. Assuming they lay down to photosynthesize most efficiently from perpendicular sun rays that would be one square meter, so 1400 watts. You would need an ~11% efficient conversion to meet the needs of a human. Plants currently top out at about 6.4% for highly efficient C4 plants like sugarcane. 11% is the maximum efficiency possible.

>The photosynthetic efficiency is dependent on the wavelength of the light absorbed. Photosynthetically active radiation (400–700 nm) constitutes only 45% of the actual daylight. Therefore the maximum theoretical efficiency of the photosynthesis process is approximately 11%.

Not only would you have to somehow replicate the extreme efficiency of sugarcane on animal skin (an organ with no support structures for photosynthesis), you’d have to double the efficiency.



Makes sense actually. Animals have had half a billion years: if photosynthesis could power them some of them would be using it.


The sloth actually supplements their diet with photosynthetic algae that live on their fur. But their metabolism is very very slow.


That would be equivalent to us carrying a lattice pot around and then eating the lattice. Not a real example of photosynthetic animals.


The solutions you describe are functionally identical, so I do not see why it wouldn't be a "real example".


There are undersea slugs who store devoured algeas chlorophyl in transparent pockets under the skin.


in the future women will be even more wrinkled


So basically, she would have to be a tree.


Worth noting that they were able to treat osteoarthritis in mice using transplanted mammalian cells engineered to photosynthesize. They also posit that this can be used to treat common degenerative diseases in humans by enhancing cell anabolism (the process by which cells utilize energy to build molecules and other things like proteins and lipids from smaller molecules). Though still much work to be done there.


MY LIFE FOR AIUR


Reminds me of "Beggars in Spain"/Beggar's Ride trilogy by Nancy Kress.


I think if we had ways to transplant, repair, and/or supplant mitochondria, we might be able to restore function at an organelle level as opposed to MRT one-shot in vitro prior to gestation.


There's a corner case where it is starting to happen. Women with mitochondrial disorders will pass them on to any children they have. Mitochondrial replacement therapy during IVF swaps most of the mitochondria with those from a donor.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7492815/


I once read a sci fi story about how humans evolved to absorb energy via the skin due to some spliced in photosynthesis genes. Pretty cool I thought.


Can't wait for the first little green men (phosynthetic humans)


There is a relevant analysis in https://what-if.xkcd.com/17/ about a "green" cow that can get energy from photosynthesis.


> a "green" cow that can get energy from photosynthesis

Sun-fed beef?


I wonder how it will change the livestock industry. Not having to feed animals alleviates the environmental concerns about eating meat, and would make meat cheaper.

Hell, I would buy myself some photosynthesizing cows and pigs if I can just put them in a pen outside and not have to feed them.


Considering the surface area of a cow and that they apparently ought to eat 14+kg of grass a day plus a few kg of additional feed, a photosynthetic cow would quickly starve to death if you stopped feeding it... (ignoring the still necessary mineral intake)


That’s not a fair comparison. This is generating ATP directly, rather extracting sugars and whatnot the plant, most of which is indigestible waste, so it’s not like you’d need the surface area of 14 kg of grass.

The real problem is that you need hemispherical hairless cows. ;)


ATP requires adenine and ribose. The former requires nitrogen fixed for the grass by microorganisms and the latter requires glucose for the pentose phosphate pathway. Adenine might also be recycled by the mitochondria which would further complicate things (can ATP be sent back into the mitochondria? Can the mitochondria recycle adenine without the entire glucose/electron transport pathway?)

I suspect a photosynthetic cow would still need to eat a lot of grass


You process literal pounds of ADP to ATP and back to ADP, every day.

If you eat fructose, you end up turning some of that into uric acid and excreting it, wastefully. It does other varied harm on its way out.


> You process literal pounds of ADP to ATP and back to ADP, every day.

That's exactly my point. Some percentage of that ADP and ATP will be lost and the adenine/ribose broken down or reused for something else - cells are messy environments. Some of that will be lost permanently to waste. The more turnover in this process, the more opportunity for that loss.


> The real problem is that you need hemispherical hairless cows. ;)

That's a good opportunity to join forces with Sabine Hossenfelder and together move some of excess funding from, say, particle physics, and allocate it to fundamental research on which all physics depends: creation of frictionless, vacuum-rated spherical cows.


No need to wait: per Gene Wolf they’re also time travelers. They’ll come to you.


Unless they overshoot, end up on Urth and have to wait for a guy with a spare whetstone.


Reminds me of "Knights of Sidonia".


Clearly the future of ethical vegetarianism.


The other kind of beyond meat. If we can pretend plants are meat we can pretend meat is plants goddamnit!


Puts the green in soylent green




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