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> I mean the screaming kid in the restaurant.

I'll say this for everyone else out there - deciding to not have kids based on bad kids in public is like deciding to not buy a house because of that one guy who never mows his lawn.

My kids have never had an outburst in public. Had one have gone into a temper tantrum or anything of the sort, I would have quietly left the establishment as a courtesy to others.

You don't notice the people who raise their kids well or have good kids because they go out of their way not to be a burden to others.

I'll call myself lucky that I have two great, artistic, and intelligent kids that are also mannered and polite, but it's less about luck and more about parenting.

If you want to have kids, and are scared by that horror scene in the restaurant, rest assured that you can have kids that aren't like that. It's not luck, it's parenting.



Even the public tantrums tend to be few and far between. We've had a couple among our three kids. Perhaps others around us were horrified. But other parents aren't- we get it.

Seriously, in the big picture it's no big deal. Downs syndrome, in contrast, is a big deal.


Yes. The birth defect thing is terrifying.


It should not be "decide to not have kids" It should be "decide to have kids"

Having kids is a major decision. Not having them is not.


If you're a normal human being, it's actually a lot of work (or an outpatient surgery, for me) to not have kids.


Using a condom is hardly comparable to having a kid (in work, implications, responsibility -- ie "decision)


Forethought in the heat of the moment is pretty hard.

If it wasn't, I'm sure people would have a lot fewer kids.


After 10 years of perfect condom use, you have more than a 25% chance of getting pregnant.


I'm going to refrain from doing the math backwards to find out how often you have sex.


You are confusing how hard it is to push a rock back up a hill with how hard it is to push the rock down a hill.





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