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Think we're done here. I don't see a cohesive theme that deserves a response in between your responses to very specific pieces of my argument rooted in deflection and whataboutism. I feel I've expressed my viewpoint sufficiently. I don't feel like debating the definition of "terrorism", "extremist views", "race", "South Africa", etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop



Thank you for holding your ground here. As frustrating as it can be to wade into these threads, pushing back brings some much-needed sanity to a conversation that otherwise gets drowned out by propaganda (or at least the one i'm used to as consumer of regular western media). Beyond the main points, this exchange is a useful case study in Hasbara and bad-faith debate tactics. (whataboutism, shifting goalposts, and semantic traps designed to derail the discussion; demanding an immediate, comprehensive policy solution just to validate a basic moral critique is a funny double standard given that the Israelis themselves offer no peaceful policy solution or path toward equal rights)

Kudos for calling out these rhetorical games in the open


Anything you disagree with is "Hasbara" right ? Supporting Israel's right to exist - Hasbara. Saying some Palestinian hold extremist view - Hasbara.


No country has some divine right to exist. If a nation keeps crossing every line, there's no reason to keep it around. How is this not obvious.


Don't flatter yourself. You're not the one keeping it around. But your comment illustrates why Israel needs to exist and will continue to exist.


> But your comment illustrates why Israel needs to exist and will continue to exist.

Because otherwise common sense will take over? Might take a while to get used to but let's give it a go.


Replacing governments, hard sanctions perhaps - yes. Throwing out an entire people? Why ? Why not throw out the Palestinians then?


> Replacing governments, hard sanctions perhaps - yes.

I'm on board.

To be clear, I'm not advocating ethnic cleansing and never will.


Well you are implying Israel should be dismantled , in the most optimstic scenario that still involves a large chunk of Israeli Jews finding another place to live.


Dismantling Israel doesn't necessarily mean Israeli Jews or anyone else would have to relocate.


> doesn't necessarily mean Israeli Jews or anyone else would have to relocate

Right. Hamas has an integration plan for the Jews.


Excellent taqiyya, mate.


"In Islam, taqiyya is the practice of concealing one's faith or religious identity."

Joke's on you, I'm a former Christian but no longer belong to any religion. Did you have any actual points you wanted to share?




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