Don't tip standing up. If you're ordering at a counter, that's not a tipped job. What are you even tipping for anyway? You haven't gotten your food yet, they're not bringing anything to you, it makes no sense.
If the conceit of tips is that they incentivize good service, then tipping before you receive the service is nonsensical.
You’re tipping the restuarant so your date looking over your shoulder doesnt get the ick, its a lot of energy to get what you want out of a relationship for it to be felled by a tipping protest
This culture is socially policed and has nothing to do with service, or whether tips are split, taxed, or whether that part of the country already abolished sub minimum wage
Usually the person at the register is not the one preparing the order in these situations, or if they are, then they're in your view the whole time. I don't think that's much of a concern.
> "Don't tip standing up. If you're ordering at a counter, that's not a tipped job. What are you even tipping for anyway?"
And what am I getting when I'm sitting down? The restaurant should be paying this person to bring me my order just as much as they pay the cashier that rings up the order "standing up".
The whole thing is ridiculous and we're just pandering to a very vocal and particularly nasty minority's opinion (just look at "tipping" subreddits and Facebook pages to see the toxicity, entitled-ness and hostility towards customers).
And because it's unpalatable to say these things, we've all collectively come up with post-rationalizations as to why we should tip and how it'll go horribly if we try address it. "Oh but if you don't tip the employer won't pay them" and endless variations of that and "a ha, but you didn't consider this" gotchas that effectively make this an un-discussible topic.
People worked hard to get some sort of "minimum wage" and then we all collectively allowed tipping (Edit: service worker's that get tips) to be exempt with some sort of "make up for low tips so they get minimum wage anyways" complicated setup that added yet more ways for employers to shaft these "suffering" workers.
I agree, but tipping at sit-down restaurants is far more culturally ingrained. Tipping at counter-ordering restaurants is newer, and a gray area, there's still time to nip it in the bud before it becomes the same cultural expectation.
The price for food i see includes all costs, ingredients, service and preparation. Only in North america does this weird pressure exist to pay service workers extra, untaxed money.
I will tip counter if they have a jar or the terminal asks, but if I do I treat them as tipped workers -- i.e. I will leave all my trash sitting at the table and wave them over when my food is ready.
Generally my rule is 10% tip for bussing and 10% for taking and bringing my order.
It’s hilarious when they ask for tips but yet I’m expected to get my order when they call out my name as well as expected to clean/bus my own table and serve myself water from a communal water vessel.
If the conceit of tips is that they incentivize good service, then tipping before you receive the service is nonsensical.