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> Also, including what china did in HK in a conversation about rule of law, human rights, etc is simply not relevant by _any_ definition.

It is , but in another way - we are finding there is little daylight between us and China in terms of surveillance.



We're literally discussing an article in which a court said you need a warrant to surveil people in a group chat, and you're saying their is not a significant gap between that and china (where there is consistent pervasive surveillance of all communication at all times)?




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