> There are no masculine traits that men have and women dont
This is not true. There are obvious traits as humans aren’t unique in biology. It’s not to say that these things are unique to women or men, but that they are more common.
Male swans are larger than female swans. This doesn’t mean that all male swans are larger than all female swans. But it’s a masculine trait.
There are obvious traits that are masculine and feminine and some are positive or negative. And some were more positive or negative historically and in the future.
This doesn’t mean that one sex is superior to another in general.
All humans have equal rights to dignity even though different sexes and genders have specific advantages and disadvantages.
But just showing the height differences of men and women is pretty clear. That was more useful 800 years ago when people wore armor and fought wars and less useful in the future when people work in space.
> Male swans are larger than female swans. This doesn’t mean that all male swans are larger than all female swans. But it’s a masculine trait.
So it depends on definition here right. The trait "taller" is masculine with respect to female swans. But Height, is not something that women do not have.
Dutch people are taller than the rest of the planet, that does not make Dutch women more masculine than American men. hence my point that something that is masculine cannot be defined as something women do not have.
> But Height, is not something that women do not have.
Height is not masculine. Higher height than women is masculine. The average man is taller than the average woman.
The average Dutch man is taller than the average Dutch woman.
Traits doesn’t mean only one sex has it. It just means a difference.
Both men and women have testosterone and estrogen. But the levels are the traits difference between them.
I’m not sure what you’re arguing as the request was to name something that men are better at than women, some characteristic. You should be able to do that as it’s simple.
It doesn’t seem that you’re arguing that there’s no difference. Just some weird semantic debate with yourself about what “trait” means.
> The average man is taller than the average woman.
Yes, but that was kinda my point. "Taller" is a comparative trait not an intrinsic one. If you are the last person on earth, things like your height, your test level, how you keep your beard etc remain. But you are not taller than anyone.
> Traits doesn’t mean only one sex has it
That is how the dude above me defined it, hence my complaint, thanks for agreeing with me here.
> But the levels are the traits difference between them.
Yes, but also those traits individually are not enough. Similar to Species in an animal group, what we look for are clusters. Clusters of traits that are masculine/feminine etc makes us read a human as feminine or masculine.
> It doesn’t seem that you’re arguing that there’s no difference.
My argument is that masculine and feminine are mostly made up social constructs that we mold based on many times silly stuff. Like people in croatia used to ride a horse with a necktie to not get swea on their shirts, and the king of france liked it so much he copied it but made it expensive with silk, then rich twats in france followed and 400 years later all men in banking wear ties, as peak masculine work uniform. There is nothing "masculine" about a french king copying a necktie and yet culturally it is enshrined.
So I was arguing that the position that masculine is something women tend not to do/or have is wrong. That is not how masculine or feminine things start, they start at random many times and culturally stick.
This is not true. There are obvious traits as humans aren’t unique in biology. It’s not to say that these things are unique to women or men, but that they are more common.
Male swans are larger than female swans. This doesn’t mean that all male swans are larger than all female swans. But it’s a masculine trait.
There are obvious traits that are masculine and feminine and some are positive or negative. And some were more positive or negative historically and in the future.
This doesn’t mean that one sex is superior to another in general.
All humans have equal rights to dignity even though different sexes and genders have specific advantages and disadvantages.
But just showing the height differences of men and women is pretty clear. That was more useful 800 years ago when people wore armor and fought wars and less useful in the future when people work in space.