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cost of living in those areas means these guys live at best above middle class unless you want engineers to essentially never have children and live in an apartment all their life, then even 200-300k in these areas isn't much.


They could simply move. It's what normal people had to do because these overpaid engineers outpriced them.


I'm not going to address the other aspects in your comment but:

1. Apartments can be perfectly fine for a happy life, everywhere across the world.

2. Conception and child upbringing do not mandate having a house.


This is not true in any city in the US by any statistically valid definition of “middle class”.


> engineers to essentially never have children and live in an apartment all their life

Welcome to most of Europe.


As an engineer living in Europe and inside an apartment I can confirm.

Also wanted to add that when we want to feel less trapped we can very easily escape to many other nice places that surround us in the near vicinity, I usually go for bookstores and coffee-shops (from where I’m writing this comment), other people also choose parks, bike-rides, stuff like that. We manage.




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