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> The apps don't work for me. I get at most 3~4 dates a year out of them. It's better than zero but not by much.

Consider paying for them. From a male perspective, it’s strictly a numbers game.

Tinder Platinum did wonders for me. Saves your time, and gets you pushed higher in the stack of the cards, which leads to more matches.



Not only this, but pay for a professional photographer (and even a stylist if you can afford it!). Photo quality has a huge effect on how attractive someone appears; bad lighting can make a 10 look like a 5, and good lighting, dress and posing can make a 5 look like an 8.


Just don’t go too far past what you can deliver in person. The matching party could feel catfished and that will just push your failure down-funnel.

I.E. don’t take shots with perfectly styled hair, a leather jacket, and a motorcycle, if your day to day and date attire will be a t-shirt and jeans and you’re going to arrive on an e-scooter.


yeah there's a harry stebbings interview of whitney wolfe where at the end he says 'bumble wasn't working that well for me until I dropped $300 a month for it, and blam', and she kind of chuckles and promises to work on his profile with him

unintentional blindside question in a softball interview


$300 a month is super excessive.

I was paying £69 a year for Tinder Gold and then £99 a year for Tinder Platinum.


Depends on the age as well. Tinder overcharges guys over 30. Platinum is €120 per year for me.


I’m pretty sure that this is illegal in the EU.


A lot of things that are illegal in the EU still fly until the offending company is taken to court and order to pay damages and mend things.

Having laws is one thing, enforcing them is another.

Just look at the huge number of websites that are not GDPR compliant.


Actual question: if you do not make a product or service available in the EU, does your globally accessible marketing website need to be GDPR compliant?


If you're not in the EU, you have no presence in the EU, and are not selling a product in the EU, then no. EU has no jurisdiction over you. But it might be a consideration if you entertain the possibility of doing any of those things in the future.


IANL, but AFIK, yes, as long as EU users can access your website, it does have to be compliant. Though how you could get fined for breaching that is another matter.

TBH, being GDPR compliant isn't that hard, just don't track your users lol. A lot of the web was GDPR compliant by default 20 years ago.


I think one of the apps got tagged for age-based pricing in california, had to pay damages or a fine


Is there some sort of extra premium tier that’s not advertised?


I've paid for several. Hasn't helped at all.


> gets you pushed higher in the stack of the cards

What's the outcome when everyone pays for it?


"Everyone" wont. When I was 22, in pretty good shape, and had a full head of hair I didnt need to pay for bumble. Last time I was on an app I was ~27, in okay shape, and bald. If I was taking it seriously I would have paid for it because I saw a massive impact on my matches based on age/hair status.


In theory the goal is to get married and quit the app but something tells me that their business model isn't based on that idea.


> In theory the goal is to get married and quit the app

It’s very dependent on the age group (and of course, people themselves).

I’d be willing to bet that in 18-25 (maybe even higher) age group most people are looking to have fun, not get married.


> What's the outcome when everyone pays for it?

Back to the popularity contest, and virtually impossible to use without paying.

Or they’ll just add a higher tier.

It’s a very cruel numbers game.




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