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in their eyes the sinner is the only one to suffer

You are applying utilitarian considerations of outcomes to religious dogmatists. Such consider sexual immorality (as defined by them) to be a corrupting influence on everyone peripherally connected to it, and an affront to God.

Hence the current moral panic of denouncing all LGBT people as 'groomers' and insinuating or openly accusing people who disagree as pedophiles, which is considered sufficient reason to kill in some peoples' eyes. Now while this moral panic is by no means universal among religious Christians, if you're not aware of it then you just aren't paying attention.



> Hence the current moral panic of denouncing all LGBT people as 'groomers' and insinuating or openly accusing people who disagree as pedophiles

I find it kind of strange that you are conflating marriage equality and concerns over sexualizing young children together. I don’t see people using this sexualization of children as an argument against gay marriage, I see it pretty hyper-focused on the sexualization of young children.

I am wondering why you are tying them together if the folks doing it don’t seem to be.


I have admired your candor in these exchanges, up until this comment.


Sorry you feel that way, but I just find it a little disappointing that this thread went down this road and someone made this linkage. I don’t see it as a related issue.


I am also disappointed that "someone" has been conflating those two things, but it ain't anigbrowl. In case you're genuinely unaware of where that accusation comes from, an explainer: https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/06/23/lgbtq-groomers-smear-...


I’m certainly aware that “grooming” is now a political weapon, but what I am not aware of is any concerted effort to try and use that to attack marriage equality. Your snopes article does not appear to be making that case either.


Conflating homosexuality with pedophilia has been a thing since before there was a gay rights movement. Has it occurred to you that maybe your outgroup hears more of your ingroup's worst arguments than you do?




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