I don’t think it’s such a clearly Democrat vs Republican issue. Plenty of Democrats have been in favor of harsher penalties for drug and other crimes. Biden and Harris among them. The Republicans are of course just as bad on this topic.
I do think the Republicans, especially when they were more heavily influenced by the “religious right” had a noticeably worse position when it came to gay rights. However, that appears to be in the past. Let’s remember that in 2004 even Obama was opposed to gay marriage. Society took a while to evolve on the issue. And both parties have evolved since what they were in the 80s, 90s, and 00s.
That's unmitigated bullshit and you know it, and you're living in a fantasy world.
Why do you find it necessary to lie like that? Especially when it's so mendacious on its face and so easily disproven.
Trump used to be pro-gay, and claimed during the campaign that he was the best friend of gays, but then he actually "de-evolved" to support and empower the anti-gay evangelical bigots who STILL run the Republican party, so your argument is incoherent nonsense that flies in the face of reality and fools nobody, in the defense of bigotry.
It's really insulting you'd attempt such a poorly executed Gish Gallop, and you don't deserve any proof that you're wrong in response, because you're just making shit up to defend and exonerate terrible bigots.
> but then he actually "de-evolved" to support and empower the anti-gay evangelical bigots who STILL run the Republican party, so your argument is incoherent nonsense that flies in the face of reality and fools nobody, in the defense of bigotry.
I'd love to see something about this
Are you maybe conflating transgender demands vs gay rights?
There is definitely opposition to "gender is what you identify with and not something objective", which I think it's reasonable - there are biologically 2 genders (not including extra chromosome anomalies).
At the same time, everyone is free to believe and say what they want and noone is trying to change that.
The main opposition is around compelling speech according to someone preference not to trigger them or allowing parents to inject hormones in underage kids.
I agree with you but it cuts both ways. GOP and Dems do whatever they think they need to do to stay in power. Hilary Clinton changed her position on LGBT rights when the winds started to blow in a different direction too.
And Donald Trump changed his position on LGBT rights in exactly the opposite direction, but HE was PRESIDENT and LEADER of the Republican Party (and still thinks he is), and his DE-EVOLUTION hurt many people.
Hillary IMPROVED. Trump GOT WORSE. There is no equivalence. They're OPPOSITES.
So no, the Republican Party doesn't get credit for being just the same as the Democratic Party, and it most certainly cuts much worse in one way than the other. So please spare us the false equivalences and revisionist whitewashing of institutionalized GOP bigotry.
Of course they are equivalent because they are completely self serving and insincere. We should want and expect leaders with the courage of their convictions. I don't trust anyone who can change so readily and without second thought when it suits them. They'll just change back again when it suits.
They certainly don't have equivalent intentions or outcomes. So no, they're not equivalent at all, no matter how hard you try to justify and whitewash one-sided Republican bigotry by claiming to know everyone's true motivations. You're still making a false equivalence.
Then name some openly gay Republicans in power, and tell me what they've done to tangibly improve LGBT lives. (Who didn't switch to the Democratic party after coming out, like Charlie Crist, and who don't deny it, like Larry Craig or Lindsey Graham.)
Are the Log Cabin Republicans finally being taken seriously?
Republican LGBTQ rights group’s executive director is the latest to leave after its endorsement of Trump
I'd vote Democrat over Republican every day of the week but it's denialism to pretend this doesn't enable this sociopathic approach to governance. You're appealing to tribalism because it fits your values. I wholeheartedly disagree that this is a healthy way to approach politics.
I'll take a self serving and insincere politician who moves in the right direction over one who moves in the wrong direction every time. Those are absolutely not equivalent.
I do think the Republicans, especially when they were more heavily influenced by the “religious right” had a noticeably worse position when it came to gay rights. However, that appears to be in the past. Let’s remember that in 2004 even Obama was opposed to gay marriage. Society took a while to evolve on the issue. And both parties have evolved since what they were in the 80s, 90s, and 00s.