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> If you value relaxed mornings, relaxed evenings, and never feeling rushed before or after work, then there's nothing wrong with that. You're not obligated to go out with friends or allocate hours to hobbies during the weekday.

That is entirely reasonable and correct, but it's also really just saying "suck it up". Having a relaxed day vs. doing hobbies on weekdays is a hell of a dichotomy. It's a shitty choice. I think that lies at the root of your colleagues' complaints, even if they don't express it like that.

> Learning how to get out of bed, get dressed, eat breakfast, and get out the door in under 30 minutes was a game changer for me, and it wasn't even that difficult.

Yeah, I was pretty good at this. In addition to saving time, the main result was being filled with dread about the next day every time I went to sleep.

> If you don't want to real rushed or pressured during your off time, you don't have to, but you can't have it all.

I mean, I could if I just didn't have to work 8 goddamn hours 5 days/week :) It annoys me to no end that 6 hour workdays or 4 day work weeks are not more common.

That being said - I have tried and somewhat succeeded to resolve this by transitioning to freelancing. Many of the gigs will still require full time, but at least I get to have as much time as I want (or can afford) between them, and can also better control my schedule. But it's more stressful, comes with more uncertainty and if I'm for some reason unable to continue working I'm fucked.



> That is entirely reasonable and correct, but it's also really just saying "suck it up".

You bet it is. And the sooner you realize that most of life is this way the better off you will be.


Is this a reasonable perspective? What about the labour movements of the 19th and 20th centuries that in many cases were about balancing work with life? Adopting this perspective isn't great unless you want to accept the status quo.


> Adopting this perspective isn't great unless you want to accept the status quo

Adopting this perspective is the only way you're going to change the status quo. Change isn't created by endlessly scrolling or complaining on twitter; recognizing that you must be hardworking and focus your energy where it's most effective is a precondition to creating it.


I mean more the perspective that we don't really have time to focus on other things in life when doing 8 hours of work a day. To me it seems like we don't have enough push-back against the status quo here - which is that 8 hours is incredibly wasteful in a lot of industries and jobs, and it's ruining our ability to think and focus throughout the week.


PragmaticPulp is making an appeal to take responsibility for your time management.

Reducing this to "suck it up" seems like a lack of listening/understanding to me.




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