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They 'culled' (which means killed) the animals that were not tame enough. And continued doing it for 40 years, it seems.

this is a kind of experiment I would have prohibited totally.

"... Only those foxes that showed tolerance for the nearness of people were selected and bred to produce the next generation, while fearful or aggressive animals were culled. ..."

https://slate.com/technology/2012/03/domesticated-foxes-in-s...



Not exactly. They bred an aggressive population alongside the tame one, and it's now 60 years: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2018/08/fox-dogs-...

"Researchers have bred more than 40 generations of friendly and aggressive foxes."

I read a really interesting article mainly about the aggressive ones, but I just spent a few minutes looking for it unsuccessfully.


Hiding the research as breeding 'better' foxes for fur is fine with you? That's what those culled have been used for.

Now we can discuss whether such an approach is immoral on its own, but we should probably get off our high modern horses and judge things from perspective of given era. And breeding animals for fur was totally acceptable. In fact, it still is in all countries on earth and for some time will be.

Btw are you vegan to have at least some grounds to claim any moral superiority to that research?


So.. I have to say, I think you are right.

I do eat meat. And I understand where it comes from.

I should not be judging hunters, live stock growers, or breeders culling unsuccessful breeds, or wale hunters...

I guess part of me was thinking why could not they just relocate the other foxes like 500 miles away and let them live. Russia (even without USSR) still has like 11 time zones of land. It is enormous.

Perhaps, for a moment, I assumed that I had a know-how and was asked to be a 'moral authority', 'ethics luminary' and a re-born principles activist (especially when it affects others, but not me)

I am probably not the only one who fell into that mind set, even momentarily.

But @saya-jin you are right,

there is nothing that indicated that animals were tortured, and I should not have judged how they were 'culled'.


Thank you for mentioning that. I got part of this story from a Dutch book "De meeste mensen deugen" by Rutger Bergman.

> this is a kind of experiment I would have prohibited totally.

You mean it'd be prohibited or that you'd prohibit it?

What we do hourly to the population of chicken and cow is much more violent and genocidal than the culling you mention. It serves no scientific purpose either; only because 1) we've grown accustomed to eating so much meat 2) there are so many humans on Earth.




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