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...And then, after slaughtering those people and years of insularity, nationalism, and populism... what's going to be left, but for those insular nations to fight over remaining resources?

I can't see a nuclear nation shrugging and saying, "Well I guess we're conquered! Here are the keys..."



Using a nuke to fight off a tide of refugees is like bringing a grenade to a fist fight. Do you think the people who are already here are going to tolerate the wholesale slaughter of their family members who are trying to rejoin them? What about all of their friends? No. If we don't find some way to rescue everybody we will be torn apart by civil war.


Using a nuke to fight off a tide of refugees is like bringing a grenade to a fist fight.

Yeah, or firebombing a defeated nation. Who would do such a thing? Oh right... humanity.


Sounds like a good argument to not let even one of them in.


You must must've missed the part where I mentioned that they are already here. They are us.

We aren't going to be able to pull up the ladder. People will try, though, and it will get very ugly, very fast.


If by "here" you mean North America and Western Europe then yes, they will pay the price for their diversity. Places like Japan and China that people say are "xenophobic" might turn out to have the better survival strategy.


Exactly, and then there will be war.


Of course not. But do understand that we're talking about large scale warfare here. Even if you're willing to set moral issues aside, it's not going to be cheap. Those who want to isolate their countries from "third world problems" are going to pay for it in cold hard cash. Thus, even they cannot truly claim to be unaffected.




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