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The original Lemmy developers are hardline Marxist-Leninists, they make no secret of this.

https://dessalines.github.io/essays/dessalines_marxism_study...


> Simple, rock solid functionality.

Don't ever open that C++ code base unless you have a barf bag.

I started making contributions and gave up because I have better things to do with my time then ruin my soul.

I will also note that they stole the MQTT protocol from Home Assistant - so at least they need ideas from elsewhere. (ie openzwave died so domoticz needs to rely on the same NodeJS subsystem infrastructure of HA)

I love the concept of domoticz - lua, but my god the architecture and implementation is a tire fire.


>I love the concept of domoticz - lua, but my god the architecture and implementation is a tire fire.

Is that better or worse than a dumpster fire?


Tire-fire is spectacular compared to dumpster fire. Highly energetic thick black smoke probably visible from space shuttle with naked eye.


On rock solid functionality:

https://github.com/domoticz/domoticz/issues?q=crash

segfault, leak and hang are also fun ones. Apparently the massive memory leaks in the python integration has never been fixed. Not surprising, one look at hardware/plugins/Python*.cpp is bad for your health.


> In the 90s I used to edit out CSAM related groups, from the downloaded list in Netscape's built in NNTP client.

This list gets downloaded from whatever server you configure and is then local to your machine. Editing it would only affect what you see on your own client.

> After a time I got unhappy about this and went to see if I could determine a physical hosting location of the content.

Usenet is a distributed system - every server that didn't filter the group was hosting the content. They were typically viewed as common carriers.

(It sounds like you were tracing your own ISP's server?)

On that note some from upstate New York may remember that the attorney general tried to garner votes by raiding and seizing servers from a few local ISPs (Dreamscape, RIP), which in the end didn't work out.

> I wasn't willing to reach out to the FBI blindly and couldn't locate anyone who know anyone in the bureau.

The FBI was quite well aware of the content on Usenet and very adept at navigating it in its heydey. They used it in a number of investigations to track down producers including breaking into trusted rings that communicated with PGP encrypted communications on Usenet. You wouldn't have informed them of anything they didn't know.


> Editing it would only affect what you see on your own client.

I know. I mentioned I was editing list on clients' (plural) PCs.

> Usenet is a distributed system - every server that didn't filter the group was hosting the content.

Right. I had found a physical address of hard drives containing the data. That it wasn't the only location of the data might not have mattered to an LEO. It all depended on how many gold stars this type of bust generated (at that time).

Hindsight recognizes here that the odds were against LEO being particularly interested. External political pressure may have changed that.

> It sounds like you were tracing your own ISP's server?

Multiple clients, multiple ISPs. IIRC I determined that AT&T was supplying NNTP to all of them.

> On that note some from upstate New York may remember that the attorney general tried to garner votes by raiding and seizing servers from a few local ISPs (Dreamscape, RIP), which in the end didn't work out.

When one grandstands in the press, one takes one's chances. Quiet LEO actions work a differently shuffled deck.

> The FBI was quite well aware of the content on Usenet and very adept at navigating it in its heydey.

Absolutely. However, the one action they never, ever, ever took was anything at all against the corporate hosts and suppliers of that data. There are many strong possibilities for this, some understandable and some corrupt.


> alt.binaries killed usenet.

In 2023 Usenet is solely commercially viable for alt.binaries.


I'm surprised people aren't mentioning this more. Usenet may be dead for discussion, but it certainly isn't a dead technology.

edit: I guess they are. Took a second to search around the comments.


From what I've read, they're transferring multiple petabytes of data a day between different backbone NNTP server farms.


This is true. Pretty much all alt.binaries though and there is an interesting ecosystem of tools, forums and providers that you need to be aware of in order to access content.


Some of us work/worked for organizations doing hardware, marketing, sales to every corner of the planet and dealing with supply chain with 1/8 of that workforce though (more than 2 decades ago - productivity should be better now). Spinning this as anything more than gross overhiring that is going to correct either in dribs and drabs or spectacularly sounds like complete bullshit to those that had been around a few bust cycles and worked in other industries.


> organizations doing hardware, marketing, sales

Still sounds simpler than what Spotify does.

Just thinking about dealing with payment processing, regulatory environment of music licensing, customer support, and record labels around all countries on which they operate makes my head hurt a little.

But then again, your bad take is the reason I keep coming back to HN. I always find it amusing how people here always seem to have all the answers for things they never worked with. Most of the times I think people being butthurt for whatever reason.


> payment processing

This is outsourced.

> customer support

"Can't find the solution you're looking for? Here's how to get help from our experts. Note: We currently don't offer support by phone."

And half of what they do have is outsourced to "community members".

> regulatory environment of music licensing

This, this is what they do. So that's something. Is it 9600 people something? Apparently not since they already shaved off 6% of the work force earlier this year. It would seem their own CEO appears to agree with the take they are overweight.

Selling hardware around the world has tremendous regulatory burden as well. If you can't imagine the complexities of designing, sourcing and selling hardware products around the world maybe think harder?

Let the chips fall where they may. It isn't like it's the first or even biggest layoff for Spotify this year.


It all ends in speculation anyway, different industries have different sets of requirements, and regulatory frameworks. Different products at scale have different needs for maintenance and development. I know some people working with hardware with sales spanning most of the globe in a company with 300 employees, it doesn't mean you can have a phone manufacturer selling to most of the globe with just 300 employees.

Of course there's some level of overhiring but whatever comment here saying that 1/10, or 1/2, or whatever other percentage is what is needed is baseless speculation on some non-informed guess. Without knowing the insides it's just baseless speculation, and even in the inside you'd need to be in a higher level of management to have a decent overview of what's waste (and why it's waste) vs what's actually needed.


> To me, this why AVX didn't get widespread use.

This is flat out false. The rest of the comment is therefore superfluous.


> Can simulated hospital simulate efforts by staff to quickly add into many charts a medication Rx - by taking one patient note and copying 1 note, then pasting that into several?

What CPOE system involves notes? None of the handful I've used in the US.

No modern EMR here involves any copy pasting for orders.


reposurgeon. It was what was ultimately used to transition gcc to git.

Just to be clear, ESR is still a tool: https://np.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/1b1wbl/clos_is_an_ugly... http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8730

He's also mostly an ineffective, unlikable idiot, which we should all be thankful for because he could actually be somewhat dangerous if he weren't.


> I think the tricky part with innovation, is almost everything innovative looks like a bad idea to almost everyone.

No. No. The steam engine, modern refrigeration and open heart surgery all probably had some naysayers but I don't think they looked like bad ideas to almost everyone. A lot of what qualifies as innovative from your tech community really just might be crap.

From the beginning the complaint with crypto and blockchain is that it didn't fix any problems other than maybe assisting as a tool in laundering/illegal transactions, and it wastes energy to boot. I don't see how the naysayers were wrong.

The metaverse idea didn't even get to the point of hyping a purpose. Nobody even bothered to explain what useful human need or want it fulfilled (beyond what has already been fulfilled for years in gaming).

> But comparing to current state of AI, is sort of comparing to a different stage, where there is the beginning of an early majority

Early majority? That is a bold affirmation.

I think these large language models are pretty neat. I also lived through the first AI winters. I would say the hype at this moment isn't even as great as it was then (especially in the 80s). It is a bit tough to explain for those that weren't there - but numerous knowledgable and intelligent people were convinced that the AI singularity was just moments away.


> but I don't think they looked like bad ideas to almost everyone. A lot of what qualifies as innovative from your tech community really just might be crap.

Cool. How about brain surgery? Clarification: how about brain lobotomies?

Without the benefit of hindsight, can you explain how open heart surgery is "clearly" good and innovative while the later is harmful. I mean, everyone knows it's a good idea: it even won a Nobel Prize.

The fact is, everyone only obviously knows an idea was crap or obvious in hindsight.


> Cool. How about brain surgery? Clarification: how about brain lobotomies?

Many of the indications for open heart surgery are no longer valid or standard of care today, replaced with either vascular access or medical management... and brain surgery is a more fair comparison then a specific procedure (open heart surgery is not a single procedure either), for which plenty of lives have been improved.

Which by the way, lobotomies (temporal lobectomies, but a rose by any other name) are still an accepted treatment for epilepsy. Sidebar: Frontal lobotomies were not without controversy over their well known effects even when they were contemporary.

Neither is "clearly" good nor harmful. I never sought to engage in this black and white thinking.

And to my original point it is completely obvious to me and many in my field why it is beneficial that we should be researching alternative treatments to epilepsy other than lobectomies (which doesn't feel like the final word on epilepsy, as helpful as they have been for some), and this goes for a whole host of neurological and psychiatric treatments in general. Unfortunately the technology hasn't gotten us there yet - that doesn't mean it isn't obvious to me why work in these areas would be net beneficial. And some of those ideas are not going to pan out in the long run, no shit. This is the limitations of technological progress, not some issue of vision.

I don't think the metaverse is comparable as no one has ever explained to me how, let alone Meta, how it is not Second Life with more bells and whistles.

> The fact is, everyone only obviously knows an idea was crap or obvious in hindsight.

Well I have plenty of hindsight for all that shit.


Plenty of truly innovative inventions aren't initially universally loved, take automobiles for example[0].

0: https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2017/01/get-horse-americ...


I'm not sure I can get on board with the sentiment of your first point. Anaesthesia as another example took more than a century to get right, had some huge failures and wasn't taken seriously. It surely earns the label of innovative but just happened on a much larger timescale.


As I recall, refrigeration also went through multiple disruption cycles, or at least how someone got ice. As I recall but could be mistaken, almost no company survived from one cycle to the next.

The first cycle was ice huts, basically insulated bunkers where you could get ice through the summer that was collected in winter. This industry got totally replaced by the first of commercial refrigeration, that could generate and store ice from water. Which got disrupted and replaced against, with home refrigeration, someone can make ice at home, or get ice from a bigger version at a store.

The point I was trying to make, perhaps badly worded, was that these disruptions weren't obvious ideas by those in the industry. Otherwise they would have embraced the change technology allowed and rode into the new markets.

We're looking in hindsight, and going it's obvious it's a good idea, because we all have a fridge and can make ice at home. But at the time, those who owned the entire industry, couldn't see it.


Can you tell me why anybody would ever want to take anaesthesia?

Ok, now, can you explain me why anybody would ever want to go in the Metaverse? (In a way that doesn't sound like an indie game or some chatroom created by a small team?)


> No. No.

Saying “no” multiple times as if a statement is so absurdly wrong is such a meme at this point and another interesting difference between face to face and online interactions. I can’t imagine having a discussion with friends and someone throwing a bunch of “no”s out.


Sort of goes with the territory with proclamations including words like "everything" and "everyone". "almost" feels like meaningless filler.


Crypto can facilitate truly decentralized money, and although that hasn't truly happened yet, I would argue that is a feature. Does society want that and would government allow it? I don't know


What is the benefit of decentralized money, other than it makes crime easier?


I haven't yet heard a solid general case for why decentralized currency would be an improvement over what we have now. It strikes me as a solution in search of a problem.


I think until the reality of an actual, true, cashless society happens, Joe Averageconsumer isn't going to be interested in decentralized money.

When and if that happens is anyone's guess, though.


Gold has been around a lot longer.


> But I think many efficient machines do a poor job at cleaning.

Not in my experience. A good high efficiency front loader tends to get the clothes cleaner - and notably with much less wear than conventional top loaders. The money savings also come from clothing replacement as well.

Water use aside it's just better technology. Complexity is an issue, but I've had good luck by staying brands and models proven for reliability.


The problem with front loaders, and it's a fatal flaw unfortunately, is they unavoidably have mold and mildew problems due to the design. This makes them an invalid option in my opinion as I don't want mold and mildew spores in my home. They also begin to stink and your clothing can pick it up over time as it gets worse.

The other problem is many top loaders today are garbage. In order to be effective they do need a good agitator and they do need use a lot of water. The water part doesn't really matter to me though as tap water is so cheap we're talking a few cents per load.

Also speed. A front loader takes a long time. A good top loader (like Speed Queen) is done in 30m.


> is they unavoidably have mold and mildew problems due to the design.

Keep the door open. The water evaporates. Never had a problem avoiding mold.


It’s more about residues that get left behind and trapped in the rubber gasket. Keeping a dour open, although helpful, simply isn’t enough. A big part of the problem is due to the limited water use. Things don’t fully rinse.

I don’t know, it’s a major problem that people report and I’ve experienced myself. There’s even a fan you can buy and put into the machine. But hey if you haven’t experienced problems then that’s great.


As long as we're swapping anecdotes, I spent a day cutting MDF for a project and came home just covered in fine brown dust. The place we rented before we moved had an LG HE front-loader.

My blue pants remained brown from the dust for a couple of cycles. My carpenter neighbor has had the same experience with HE machines and has gone to a Speed Queen top-loader. He finds it much more satisfactory as well.


You don't have to go by anecdotes, you can go by published testing then. Dust may be a special case, and perhaps certain occupations may be better off with a top loader for work clothes, but for everyday stains and body secretions front loaders work better and wear out clothes slower.

I'm not in the anti top-loader Speed Queen cult at all... but it is that on the internet, a cult (when I hear things like mold is "unavoidable", and basically you'd have to be an idiot to consider anything other than a Speed Queen top loader that is my conclusion) -- but most people are simply better served with a front loader.


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