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Too little too late, unfortunately. The train has left the station.

F150 Lightning checked all those boxes and also isn’t a complete piece of shit that sheds parts on the road.

As an owner of the f150 lightning, I get a chuckle whenever SpaceX uses them to do something a cybertruck can't.

It was pretty funny driving past the SpaceX facility in Hawthorne and seeing the F150s doing all the real work while the CTs sat to the side for press shots.

also, the lighting is discontinued

cant drive it self

Blue Cruise on the F150-Lightning is pretty capable, and it also supports a comma.ai, which is better in a practical sense than FSD.

I have a friend with a CyberBeast and a friend with an F150-Lightning. The acceleration on the CyberBeast is absolutely magnificent and FSD is very capable. However as a truck, the frunk on the F150 is way more useful. The F150 is a better truck, but I'd say the Cybertruck is really good big weird car.


also is comma.ai legit - like would you put your kids in a car driven by it? do they publish safety stats like waymo and fsd

It’s wild to me that you trust the vague bullshit safety data that Tesla puts out enough to trust your kids lives to it.

From my perspective, the only self-driving system I trust my kids with is Waymo.


for your kids safety, would you rather do 30,000 miles in HW4 FSD in a Tesla or hand driven in any other car of your choosing? doing 30K miles in a waymo isn't an option.

Driving myself. Which I do, partly because I refuse to support Musk if I can avoid it, and partly because I think their engineering is deeply unethical and unserious.

You’re avoiding the point of the question. Do you think you hand driving in any other car is safer for your kids than having fsd drive? Yes or no.

If you’re answer is fsd is safer for your kids then fine, you choose to trade off some (maybe marginal safety) in order to not support a company you don’t like. I understand that. If your answer is that hand driving is safer, then I don’t know how to convince you otherwise because having used it and seeing the published data it’s so much obviously safer than me driving. And I’ve been driving for 30+ years


I thought I was clear that I don’t trust their engineering and I don’t think their approach to safety is at all serious, but I’ll try again.

I believe I am much safer than FSD.

The vague bullshit safety “data” they release is extremely unconvincing, particularly from a company known for lying.

Is that clearer?



good way to describe it - a really good big weird car

Blue Cruise is far more upfront about its abilities than whatever deadly beta garbage Tesla keeps tossing out there.

ok so? my point was no other car can drive itself door to door, blue cruise included.

Yes, it can

no it cant

Bluecruise exists it works, it's generally safe. If you try and kick this back and say it's not Full Self Driving or comparable to Tesla, then I'm going to start posting links to videos of Tesla FSD (All generations, including latest) doing thing like ignoring school buses signs and mowing down children, turning off with no warning at highway speeds, and otherwise dangerously not-working.

You can try and claim Tesla's self-driving features are great and work 100% of the time, I suspect most people here know that is FUD and there is ample evidence that Tesla "FSD" is certainly no better than competitors and is arguably worse.


have you tried FSD and blue cruise?

I don’t think we need to be providing proof that the sky is blue at this point but here you go.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/oct/31/tucker-carlson...


The article doesn't even include the words "ideologue" or "extreme" or make a similar claim.

Very weird and defensive response.


"But ultimately Carlson’s escalating toxicity, which included an undercurrent of white supremacy and a penchant for demeaning women and minorities, led Lachlan Murdoch, the then chief executive of Fox Corp, to pull the plug, the book says."

How obtuse are you being?


You are being deliberately obtuse. Unbearably rude and "extreme ideologue" are completely different things.

There are many Nice & Respectable people who are extreme ideologues. Words have meaning.


That's incredibly poor reading comprehension on your part.

> There are many Nice & Respectable people who are extreme ideologues

You can't actually be serious.


The Nice & Respectable Fox News crowd, that exiled Carlson, were just worshipping a "golden calf" idol of Donald Trump yesterday.

The underlying problem here is that you don't know what "ideologue" means.


Keep projecting

It really isn’t. The fact that it seems like people can’t use descriptive adjectives on HN is always so bizarre to me.

You should try using better description adjectives, like "rude", "racist", "uppity" instead of spreading misinformation.

The article says too big for his boots and part responsible for a $787m libel judgement. Also called Senior Executive Vice President for Corporate Communications a cunt. Doesn't mention idealogue.

Look, just come out and say you’re okay with them doing what they’re doing. Stop making arguments that are just verifiably untrue.

> Amends the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 to declare that such Members and employees owe a duty arising from a relationship of trust and confidence to Congress, the U.S. government, and U.S. citizens with respect to material, nonpublic information derived from their positions as Members or congressional employees or gained from performance of the individual's official responsibilities.

(Sec. 5) Amends the Commodity Exchange Act to apply to Members and congressional employees, or to judicial officers or employees its prohibitions against certain transactions, involving the purchase or sale of any commodity in interstate commerce, or for future delivery, or any swap.

Extends the meaning of "covered government person" (currently restricted to Members of Congress and congressional employees) to include the President, Vice President, an employee of the U.S. Postal Service or the Postal Regulatory Commission, or any other executive branch employee.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/senate-bill/203...


"Members of Congress outperformed the S&P 500—sometimes by huge amounts"

https://fortune.com/2024/01/03/members-of-congress-profit-fr...

"Congressional Stock Trading: The Law, the Conflicts, and the Push for a Ban"

https://govfacts.org/accountability-ethics/ethics-conflicts-...

"The 2 ETFs That Track Congressional Stock Trades"

https://www.morningstar.com/funds/2-etfs-that-track-congress...

The insider trading on oil futures is just on much bigger scale.


It’s also funny when you see their performance charted against Warren Buffet’s. Looks like Warren is a rank amateur who knows very little about the markets and buying companies for the right price compared to the likes of Nancy who must be a supreme multitasker and stock picker.

People have been strung up for less than what counts as business as usual in contemporary, rotten to the core, American business & politics.


> supreme multitasker and stock picker

Not really. Paul Pelosi was a tech investor. If you were heavily concentrated in META, AAPL, AMZN, NFLX, GOOG, etc you should have crushed the S&P and Warren Buffet too.

Famously, Warren Buffet's recent outperformance mostly came from AAPL, which was <1% of his positioning when he put it on. Imagine if it had been several percent! Such were the delights of many tech investors over the last 20 years or so.


I was picking on her but there are dozens of others who outperform Warren by multiples. And ok he’s pretty conservative but even so this chart is pretty damning.

https://watcher.guru/news/congress-stock-trades-outscores-bu...


I’m happy to report I am able to hold both violations of the law and ethics rules in similar contempt.

>Look, just come out and say you’re okay with them doing what they’re doing

Don't put words in my mouth. Moreover I'm not sure how you can come to the conclusion that I'm "re okay with them doing what they’re doing", when I specifically acknowledged they have a duty not to leak classified intel.

>Members and employees owe a duty arising from a relationship of trust and confidence to Congress, the U.S. government, and U.S. citizens with respect to material

That's not "fiduciary duty". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiduciary#Relationships


I’m not entirely sure if you understand what fiduciary duty actually means if you read federal ethics laws and don’t make the connection. Just because you can’t control+f “fiduciary duty” doesn’t mean the concept isn’t identical. Hell, there’s literally a law that bans insider trading futures on unknown information. Not “kind of like it”, literally named verbatim.

And I’m not putting words in your mouth, I’m just calling out your revealed preferences.


You're simply not using the word 'fiduciary' correctly. You seem to have expanded it to mean any sort of legal or ethical obligation with respect to markets, and that's not what it means.

That reads markedly like contracts I’ve seen which define the basis of an individual’s fiduciary duty in consideration of their access to that sensitive information.

They don’t use ARM IP. They have an architecture license. They basically created aarch64.

Apparently the real big ones are like $100k.

Spirit's assets are almost entirely their slots at ORD, EWR, LAX and LGA. They don't many of their planes.

I hear this a lot but their fleet is valued upwards of a billion, they own most of their fleet it was just financed with debt (it's not like a house where the bank has equity in the asset, the lender has debt with spirit and levers on that debt that control what it converts to on default but Spirit legally owns the planes). The slots are <100M total

Tough to decide who I trust less, denuvo or a ring-0 hypervisor I downloaded off BitTorrent.


Yes it did. You just couldn’t use it. I could send a text message while listening to music. Sometimes the music would crash due to OOM.

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