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At this point, developers have named so many projects "Atom" that there are officially more Atoms in the world than there are atoms in the universe.

To be fair, Atom the XML Feed, similar to RSS (linked here) is probably the oldest one. It's from 2005.

Now why a spec from 2005 is in the front page of hacker news, I have no idea...


https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4287

Dec 2005

I think at that time it was still ok?


This one is (was) pretty important.

The hyperscalers stopped that timeline from winning, though.


How is this the hyperscalers fault?

YouTube had atom feeds and I don't think Amazon and Microsoft have relevant syndication.

Meta is surely responsible but that's it, imo.


YouTube still does

    <feed xmlns:yt="http://www.youtube.com/xml/schemas/2015" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
I don't think they are linked to anywhere but the url is http://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=<channel_id>

The channel pages still have auto-discovery links. So if you paste a channel URL into your feed reader it should find the feed easily.

GitHub too for their releases; you just add /atom to get the feed, which works great.

GitHub have some quite nice feeds

If you want all the commits from a repo you can do something like: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/commits/main/.atom

And if you now only is interested in the num module you can do: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/commits/main/library/std/s...


Google on several occasions took moves to make the web less semantic.

They dumped microformats and standards in favor of soupy error tolerant formats that benefitted their search engine and made it harder for other efforts to make information shareable and accessible.

They wanted it to be easy to get information in, but for you to have to go through them to get information out.


> They dumped microformats and standards

I'm not sure they killed microformats, they still support hReview, hProduct etc, don't they?

And they pushed schema.org. I wrote a trivial recipe importing tool that just works™ on a bunch of website because it uses the JSON-LD Recipe schema. It's ~100 lines and a ton simpler than what I had to write 15 years ago.

Sure, they pushed for HTML5-style stuff, but that's not much of killing things.

IMO it's not google that stopped microformats: it's that website owners realized most of the time it was advantaging third parties for no advantage to them.


I started reading this article with keen interest, expecting some deep fix involving arcane model weights. Instead it was "Never talk about goblins", justified by Codex being "quite nerdy". Bottom line: even OpenAI have to raise their hands when facing the complexity of LLMs.

> the US has a culture of innovation going back maybe hundreds of years

Not many hundred, considering the US declaration of independence was in 1776 and there were some adjustment after that. Perhaps some decades?


The traditional Chinese calendar already accounts for that, with Spring beginning in late February/early March. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_term.


Right on time! "The Super Mario Galaxy Movie" released today.


Italy didn't join Spain in this: it's just that using the Sigonella airbase for military purpose requires parliament approval, which was not scheduled on time. Meanwhile, five US military flights took off from the other base of Aviano, Northern Italy.

Aviano hosts the 31° Fighter Wing (F-16 jets) and B61-4 nuclear weapons, while Sigonella has Mq-9 Reaper drones and Ep-3 surveillance airplanes.

For context, the other main US bases in Italy are: Ghedi (Lombardia region), Camp Darby (Tuscany region), Camp Ederle (Veneto region), the two harbors of Naples and Gaeta, and some other communications infrastructures. By the way, Camp Darby is the largest US weapons and ammunition warehouse in Europe.


Yeah. From the Italian defense minister:

> Someone is trying to get the message across that Italy has decided to suspend the use of bases for U.S. assets.

> Something that's simply false, because the bases are active, in use, and nothing has changed.

> The Government continues to do what all Italian Governments have always done in full adherence to the commitments made in Parliament and to the line reiterated in the Supreme Defense Council as well, in continuity with all previous Councils over the decades.

> International agreements clearly regulate and distinguish what requires specific Government authorization (for which it has been decided to always involve Parliament), without which it is not possible to grant anything, and what is instead considered technically authorized because it is included in the agreements.

> A minister only has to ensure they are respected.

> There is no third option.

> Finally, I want to reiterate that there is no cooling or tension with the U.S., because they know the rules that have governed their presence in Italy since 1954 just as well as we do.

https://x.com/GuidoCrosetto/status/2038945070833897586


> no cooling or tension with the U.S., because they know the rules

Not to add to the fake news cycle, but since the US seems fine in abandoning international agreements (at least for climate and nuclear weapons,) this comes across as blue-eyed or disingenuous.


> Meanwhile, five US military flights took off from the other base of Aviano, Northern Italy.

This may be permitted under the agreements.

I can't find the Italian version, but Spain's agreement (https://es.usembassy.gov/agreement-on-defense-cooperation/) differentiates between aircraft already based in Spain versus ones transiting through.

> Aircraft of the United States forces which are deployed in Spain, permanently or on rotation, within the agreed force level, may overfly, enter and exit Spanish air space, and use the bases specified in Annex 2 of this Agreement, with no other requirement than compliance with Spanish air traffic regulations. In order to use other bases, military airdromes and airports, the corresponding authorization shall be requested through the Permanent Committee at least 48 hours in advance.

> Aircraft flying logistics missions, operated by or for the United States forces, other than those in paragraph 1, not carrying VIPs, HAZMAT or cargo or passengers that might be controversial to Spain may overfly, enter or exit Spanish airspace and use the bases specified in Annex 2 on quarterly blanket overflight clearances authorized by the Permanent Committee.

We'll see what Italy does if asked next time.


I really hope someday no US troops will be stationed in Italy.

I'm still livid about the Cavalese disaster in which I lost few distant friends (close friends of my Veneto uncle's):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash


Interestingly I did a double take when looking this up as there is also an even worse "1976 Cavalese cable car crash" in the same vicinity 22 years earlier, this time the fault of a car operator and a design weakness.

In a twist of fate, the person partially responsible for the 1976 disaster was named Schweizer. The one partially responsible in 1998 was Schweitzer.

So if we are hoping whatever nationality/occupation pair is gone that is responsible for Cavalese car crashes, you'll be hoping to eject more than just Americans (it is not clear to me whether Schweizer was Italian as the last name seems more Germanic and apparently they were a seasonal worker). Maybe instead it is more specific to eject anyone with the name Schweit?zer ...


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Sad time today when it's not even clear how serious/sarcastic this comment is.


The “CEO” of Italy is a she.


Like pretty much every other word in that comment, we'll never know if the misgendering is intentional satire or not.


To be fair she wants to be referred to as "il primo ministro" with the masculine article.


Not sure if the CEO of the USA knows that, he confused Spain with Brazil.


if the USA CEO was she there would have been no confusion, education and all that ... :)


> european woke bureaucratic bullshit

This may have been an attempt at rage-bait, but putting woke and bureaucracy next to each other makes it actually hilarious.


I don't know if this is a troll. But anti-woke is not slavishly following the US. Anti woke would be: "Take your troops that currently fail in the Middle East out of the EU and don't bother us with your NATO withdrawal threats. You can't even protect the Gulf region."


I can't tell if this is satire or a shocking indictment of the US education system


What I find very alarming is that very few citizens in the EU knew about that. Mainstream media almost never reported this and other similar news, so I had to actively look for them. In this last case, I learned about it here on HN. Votes like that, with so much impact on citizens' digital lives, should be discussed in mainstream news channel.


It was big news in Germany in middle of October leading to fact that the conservative party opposed chat control!


Many primary school classrooms in Italy had walls painted in that same colour, likely for the same reason.


This is a very common use case, I myself hand-coded something similar 13 years ago [1]. Kudos for the choice of RSS!

[1] https://github.com/piero/WebDiff


What now? Facemolt? Moltface?


Shitfaced


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