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I believe this will get solved once agent protocol is adopted widespread.


anecdata: The responses of grok on X in my language are really good. the tone, sarcasm, level of "vulgarity" in response is so accurate that it seem its written by human


This whole thread sounds like a grok astroturf campaign


Slightly tangent. At some point in future I can imagine humanoid robots will be doing this job. Of course, the robots need to be super reliable before we hand over the our kids


What a disturbing dystopia where the robots are at home taking care of the kids so the parents can go work in the factory.


May be when robots truly arrived. We don't have to work and we get to spend more time with our kids.


That's definitely the better alternative.


Apple notes app works well for me. I just keep top 3 things to do everyday. not to me mention these top 3 are for everything - personal work and everything else. just top 3 things. that's it.


In undergrad(around 2005) we used to have a COBOL lab, most of the assignments were pretty much add/update/delete types. A friend of mine found COBOL so boring, in order to keep it interesting he wrote COBOL program for brothel(not real one), to maintain the customers, prostitutes, transactions and whole nine yard. Despite of not liking the language, he was the best COBOL programmer in college.


Internet shutdown typically happens during riots/ violent protests. Starlink makes "internet shutdown" impotent. Though Starlink has to follow country's laws and actually shutdown the internet. Most if not all protest are sponsored by entities that are against the host country and they will find ways to enable the internet for protesters with starlink or some other ways.


> Starlink makes "internet shutdown" impotent

It still requires a radio transmitter. If push comes to shove, a government can still track RF leakage or worst case GPS jamming (if it's really that existential).

Iran did the same thing when cracking down on Satelite TV and SatPhones during the crackdown of the Green Revolution (anti-Ahmedinijad protests in 2009) and anecdotally, Starlink terminals have been increasingly unstable in Iran.

I also vaguely remember a DIUx RFS within the past year for startups working on minimizing RF leakage from terminals.


A lot of these people talk about Starlink like they never heard of RF engineering.

It's like, "Um, guy, Starlink can be shut down too."


> A lot of these people talk about Starlink like they never heard of RF engineering.

Because they most likely didn't. On a separate tangent, I HATE how most CS majors can get a CS degree without even learning basics about electronics engineering or even computer architecture.

It's a shame because a lot of the craft used in DSP and RF Engineering has direct applications in ML (much of ML is itself a fork of Information Theory which started off as a DSP subfield)


Starlink just transmits to a ground station thats 99% of the time in the same country. Its not some magical space internet, its just regular internet bottled and delivered by satellite.

RF is really where this discussion needs to be, you and your mate jim can set up a bunch of UBNT hardware and create your own intranet really god damn easily. No reliance on some guy who signed on to all your governments internet censorship laws.


Starlink also uses optical inter-satellite links. Ground stations aren't necessarily required to be near to the customer.


Starlink always sides with the government. ALWAYS. Starlink doesnt make anything impotent. They just retransmit to a ground station in the same country. They signed on to every anti speech law in your country. They do business. Musk does not care about you or free speech.

>Most if not all protest are sponsored by entities that are against the host country

What kind of seppocentric drool is this statement?

LoraWAN and Wifi based local chat apps are about all that works for most protesters when the internet gets axed.


Starlink puts "internet shutdown" in the hands of just one asshole oligarch.


Not really, but he does comply with every law.


Eventually yes, but it took 1 month or so of Twitter being blocked for the company to comply with a court order and have a representative in Brazil to receive court orders.


Starlink does it proactively. They come into a new jurisdiction, they purchase satellite spectrum, they achieve a carrier license and incorporate all metadata retention, blocklists and whatever and then sell their services.

Its not like elon is playing silly buggers with these laws, he is complying completely while championing free speech online.


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> Fact check: Mostly true

That's not what that link says.

"... the claim that Musk had ordered Starlink coverage in Crimea 'turned off' wasn't entirely accurate. (Both CNN and The Washington Post subsequently corrected their reports.)"


Okay, but why pretend starlink coverage isn't solely in the hands of elon?


why i am being downvoted for this :confused:


Most likely this part you didn’t realize happened:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43354309


Well I did not even bring Elon into my original post. What I wrote is true regardless of whether its starlink or some other constellation. e.g satphones are routinely used across the world in conflict/insurgency areas. Starlink is already being used in insurgency in NE part of India and so on.


You are very loudly and assertively wrong.


population size? imo it makes huge difference in how effective you can govern.


if you can, visit Starbase. I can't believe its so easy and you can see those huge rockets from so close. No permission of anything needed you just drive to there.


Absolutely agree. Also the public location where you watch launches from is also the location where SpaceX employees watch from (South Padre Island). So you get as good of a view as the actual SpaceX employees do and it’s free to walk or bike in. It’s an amazing experience.


That.. is amazing and surprising!! WOW! It took me years to get an invitation to go see a NASA launch up close but that was a long time ago when the shuttle was still flying. Maybe I can convince my wife to take a spontaneous trip with me to see them up close. We could stop at a Buc-ee's!


Do it! I am waiting for my 7 month old to become big enough to be ready for 6 hour drive. I plan to make it annual ritual to visit Starbase with kids.


In recent India's general election. A deepfake video of a leading politician costed a massive vote shift and they almost lost an election. The damage was done by the time they have clarified it is fake.


I've heard the social media landscape is a lot different in India because so much of it passes through the comparatively-opaque WhatsApp rumor mill.


Compared to?


Most of the West? WhatsApp groups in South Asia seem to work like Telegram groups in Russia, and I don’t know that I’m aware of a European or American equivalent


Do you just mean because the lies shared on WhatsApp are hidden within groups, whereas the lies on X and FB are more public?


That was what I was getting at. I've read of a few (literal) witch hunting stories from India and Africa, and they all seem to start on WhatsApp groups. A similar phenomenon occurs in South America, as well, though in that case the killings tend to resemble lynch mobs hunting down suspected killers.

I've seen similar things happen in Western countries (e.g. when Reddit identified the wrong guy as the Boston Marathon bomber, local Facebook groups where seniors jump at their own shadow, etc), but I've only ever heard of it resulting in an actual death in non-western countries, and the common vector seems to be WhatsApp.

My working theory is that unmoderated peer-to-peer platforms like this are naturally conducive to witch-hunting (e.g. 4chan used to have a real problem with it), and that perhaps the groups being comparatively private might prevent law enforcement from becoming aware of the issue before it gets out of control.

But the other factor here is that these are all areas of the world where the rule of law is not particularly effective when compared to western countries, so WhatsApp might just be the means by which an old problem is manifesting, rather than being the cause of the problem itself.


I think anonymity removes the social cost of instigating and failing to form a mob. Also you can use alt. accounts to give the impression of a lynch mob forming.


forwards usually don't show the group the message originated from. it's like chain email, but worse


John Oliver did a piece on this back in 2021.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/john-oliver-tackl...


Larger populations are hurt the most of this. Think of some small town with say 10 people in it and a local election. Someone puts out a deepfake. If it converts 10% of people to believe it that is just one crazy person in the town of ten people. Easily ignored. Now if you have an indian city of 10 million and convert 10% to believe your deepfake, now that is 1 million people on your side and that can’t so easily be ignored.

Propaganda spreads faster and affects more people in denser and larger population sizes. And when propaganda affects more people it starts feeling less like propaganda and starts feeling believable.


even if we assume you are comment is correct. Lets extrapolate what happens next. talented team, biggest compute among all competitors and CEO who is hell bent on winning the race. imo that is the reason it is big deal.


Grok (unlike Deepseek) has yet to show any ability to make conceptual breakthrough. I don't like OpenAI at all but one must admit that they are at least showing that they can move the field forward.


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