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I don't understand this white washing (no pun intended) of "Its okay to be white" a well known white supremacist troll slogan (see wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_okay_to_be_white). How does one write an article this obnoxiously long and negelect key context of that whole ordeal?


Jensen does a uninterrupted PR presentation while Joe nods and agrees with him.


I'm hearing this sentiment EVERYWHERE. This latest version of the OS on desktop and mobile, is aesthetically a disaster. Users requested none of this glass stupidity, they hate it, and there is no way to turn it off. Between that and the CEO gifting a participation trophy to our authoritarian felon "adjudicated s-assaulter" president, most people I know with a conscience are pretty much done with the platform and looking forward to the next opportunity to bail.


This 100% feels like a scam. Can't view a snippet of code on the website. Not even a "Hello World" not even a screenshot. There's no documentation available to look at. The website is entirely focused on getting you to download the Amazon "book". Which, if the "blog" is any indications, is filled with AI generated slop. There's incomplete sentencesin there, nonsense phrasing... I dare any human to read this horrendous post: https://medium.com/techtrends-digest/new-language-pipe-makes... I makes zero sense.

I think the only way to prove that the responses here aren't AI would be for the developers add the sum of the first 30 even integers, then the next 30 odd integers, and the next 30 even integers after that...17 times.


Sorry to hear you are disappointed.

The book itself IS the documentation. In fact, there is a "Hello world!" example of Pipe diagram in the book, which can be downloaded for FREE from Amazon Kindle or Apple iBooks.

Regarding the non-readable language of our article - we will fix the problem by polishing the language. Sorry about that. However, I would like to note the fact that article is hard to read is evidence contrary to AI generation which would definitely generate a pretty polished text.

For your convenience, we just added a link with a PDF of a book preview - please find it at the end of the posting.


Sadly the amazon kindle version is not readable by their kindle web reader - tells me to download android or ios version of kindle :(


Man, if only there were some extremely wealthy companies, like the wealthiest companies in the world, that had a vested interest in "freeing" Javascript that could donate a measley $200k...


LOL Its awesome its the Trump administration guiding us through this delicate and important issue. Should turn out great.


I'm stuck on the first step of the "Getting Started" guide.

1. I've downloaded helloworld.zip to my local computer, I think. 2. I open the filer.app.js by clicking the link on the webpage. This open a 90s.dev instance right on the page. 3. Then i'm supposed to mount helloworld/app as app and click it, so i click the mount button, it asks for the drive name, hi put in helloworld/app and click mount but nothing happens.

I must be missing how you're supposed to get helloworld.zip into the 90s.dev instance... how do you upload it into the instance?


Thanks for the feedback.

You're likely using Firefox, right? This feature relies on showDirectoryPicker which Firefox doesn't support. You'd have to use Chrome for the getting started guide.

Also, the drive name shouldn't have a path. Name it something like "foo". I'll udpate the guide to reflect this. Then foo/helloworld.app.js will point to /some/local/path/helloworld.app.js, as long as you mounted "foo" to point to the directory at "/some/local/path"


Boo for "Chrome only"!

Could you find a work-around to support firefox as well?


I took great pains to support Firefox, mostly in my service worker.

Unfortunately when it comes to mounting drives for faster local development, there's nothing I can do until FF supports `showDirectoryPicker`

However, you could just load up a local file server in your local directory (python -m http.server 8080) and import your file directly:

  import 'http://localhost:8080/index.js'
Then put that one line of code inside usr/myapp.app.js and click it in filer[1]

You'll have to use filer to create the file and edit it by right-clicking, then type it in and ctrl-s to save or use the top-left menu button.

I'll add all of this to the website under some "Using Firefox" page or something, for people who can't stand Chrome.

[1] https://90s.dev/os/#sys/apps/filer.app.js@usr/


I'm in actually in Chrome. I get the following error when running 90s.dev on that getting started page:

process.ts:159 SecurityError: Failed to execute 'showDirectoryPicker' on 'Window': Cross origin sub frames aren't allowed to show a file picker. at askdir (process.ts:154:37) at port.onmessage (rpc.ts:103:10) askdir @ process.ts:159 await in askdir port.onmessage @ rpc.ts:103 filer.app.js:129 Failed to get folder: error, cancelled, or using Firefox.


That's a new error, and it's because I changed some internals[1]. For now, you'll have to open the link[2] in a new tab and do the steps there.

[1] For about a week (and at the time of posting) the app was on 90s.dev/os/ to avoid this exact CORS error. But I got tired of how it forced me to name my github repos or pay for my own server, so I moved it back to os.90s.dev, which has the one downside of the error you ran into.

[2] https://os.90s.dev/#sys/apps/filer.app.js


I really read this title wrong


When the LHC got built I kept waiting for a newspaper to make that mistake. One eventually did.


What’s the mistake?

EDIT: got it, hardons


Also "Exotic", "Bestiary".


I'd wager that most people did but then corrected themselves.


Its really challenging to think of the positive, constructive uses for this technology without thiking of the myriad, life and societal effecting uses for this. Just interpersonally the use of this technology is heavily weighted towards destruction and deception. I don't know where this ends or where researchers who release this technology think this will go, but I can't imagine its going anywhere good for all of us.


Boot died, sadly. There was some talk of a Boot 3.0 but it never materialized. I think deps.edn took all the steam out of it. Duplicated a lot of functionality and none of the esoteric-ness.


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