Bonus: And we should recognize that kids have responsibilities too. If they do something bad, it's silly trying to throw the blame on whatever the current moral panic is. Video games, D&D, rock/rap music, AI (!), etc.

I kinda feel like the people inciting moral panics should be held responsible for doing so. It's the social equivalent of dumping toxic chemicals.

This is where internet lore and 'YouTuber'-made movies will begin to pass stuff like Star Wars and the DCU in popularity and the mainstream consciousness. Backrooms will gross just as much as the Mandalorian movie and the upcoming Supergirl flop, if not more. Glad to see it. In terms of good will, this point was passed well over a decade ago.

Cal Newport is a grifter whose one and only output nowadays is posting anti-AI rhetoric.

Weird thing to brag about here, assuming it's even true. Furthermore, the "empire cultures" thing is clearly false since most researchers and other professionals in this field speak at least two or three languages. This is a global endeavor, not some pet project of a single language or culture.

And the power of "language models" (or any sort of deep learning, really), does not come from assuming that some specific input-output modality, like English text, is the ultimate foundation of thought. Strong versions of this claim were laid to rest around the time when GPT-2 came out. I'd also go further and argue that many people working on the symbolic AI of yesteryear already understood this as well.

>LLMs are next token predictors

The point is that this is no more relevant, informative, or even accurate than "carbon-based facial expression predictors". Any phenomenon in the Universe can be described by a simple and/or insulting short phrase. In other comments you've also shouted out "autocomplete!" and "Markov chain!", as if these phrases are a knock-down argument.

"Pachinko machine", "avalanche", and "game of mad libs" has also been used:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47916405

>Humans learn through their experiences, not just backprop.

Sure, sure. And humans move through the act of walking, not just terrestrial locomotion.

>Token predictors are lesser, they are not alive and will never be alive.

And on and on it goes...

Which means what the real world? What are we supposed to see now or in the near-future? I assume you've been saying all of this stuff since at least the launch of ChatGPT. Probably longer than that.

>nothing

>meaningless

>narcissistic

>wank

Cool insults. But my lying eyes and ears still say that AI knows me pretty well and is bringing plenty of value to my life.

>a real problem

Like him not getting his way? If you don't want to use AI, then don't. But I'll use it whenever I want, thank you very much.

Well, in another comment he said that LLMs haven't improved in 3 years. So this puts him at Llama 1 7B.

Show me on the anatomical prop where the magical "real reasoning" gland is.

Nice smug attitude, but LLMs fall flat on their face over and over and over again at tasks no human would fail. They can't even reason out things that literal children succeed at. It's ludicrous to claim that they have some kind of reasoning ability.

> It's ludicrous to claim that they have some kind of reasoning ability.

Did you read the post that you're commenting on?

It seems wholly believable to me that they are narrow intelligences that are great at some kinds of reasoning and worse at other kinds. Obviously they can reason through problems that most adult humans can't solve

You are criticizing a Fields Medalist for consulting with another mathematician.