Multiple proposal for this exist for decades[1][2]

The RTA one was even pushed by the porn industry and is already in place in majors websites[3]

[1]:https://www.rtalabel.org/

[2]:https://icra.org/webmasters/

[3]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Sites_Advocatin...

Well, they could trade identifying ones too or even stollen ID cards if you want to go this way.

They could also trade porn-filled thumb drive or old-school glossy paper magazine. There no way to prevent kid's exposure to stuff at a 100% success rate.

There no way to avoid exposure completely

Indeed but you are the one who claimed it was not a hard problem.

I don't think any one of us pushing back here on those claims do so for the heck of NOT finding a "solution", rather genuinely asking because so far it seems nobody did find such a solution without compromises that is in the end not worth it due to the flaw in said solution.

The point isn't to be critical of your process, only of the claim that it's a trivial problem.

> Indeed but you are the one who claimed it was not a hard problem.

Am I ?

Ah! My bad I didn't properly track authorship. I thought you were https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48645333

> For 15k you could run the best open source models (that would require 200k in hardware to run) 24/7 at 50 tps for like 5 years straight.

Is this assuming no price increase and no throttling ?

> It could, of course, use a double-anonymous system like the French one.

Which isn't really anonymous or privacy preserving, despite it's funny name : https://broken-by-design.fr/posts/proto-authz-porn/

"like"

It's not beyond the wit of humankind to build a working system.

This.

Smart people could apply their skills and build a genuinely useful technology.

But seems they would rather stick their finger in their ears and pretend that it's not happening. And they will be ignored.

WHen did this learned helplessness become so in vogue?

> I am so tired of everyone assuming the worst possible implementation of age verification.

We're not assuming it. We're observing what people are in fact actually deploying.

Supporting very old hardwares and supporting less than a decade old softwares are two very different things.

Oh yes, the Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse.

Better to wiretap everyone just in case. Why stop there ? After all there a chance any privacy could be used to conceal some terrorist plot, better to record every meat-space conversations too, let's not take any risk.

We could even recruit people to turn their neighbors in for all sorts if terrible acts, like offensive FB posts, or not wearing masks, or having too many people over, or hanging out on the beach by themselves during a pandemic, or...

The party in power always wants control. Whether this is bad or not usually depends on if you align with the party in control or not.

See this is the thing. Im not aligned with any party. If anyone does this stuff, they should be held accountable.

Donation.

You're gonna have to expand on that. I'm not going to pull out my credit card to subscribe to every random small town paper or TV station that might have a newsworthy story I want to read every 5 years. Also, almost every news site I read is drowned in advertising, visual cruft and dark patterns (eg autoplay video that are deliberately annoying to close in order to maximize play time), and I don't know what a site is going to serve before I click on it.

You don't have to donate to all of them, or even donate at all as long as enough people donate.

They tend to feature a call to donation instead of advertising, with prominent progress bar about how much they need this month/semester/year instead of advertising. Still visual crust, but much more palatable.

> Generally speaking, that's incorrect. That's like saying "I don't like cars, and don't see the value in cars, therefore the market for cars is fraudulent".

It's arguable that the car market is indeed fraudulent and the result of years of lobbying, destroying public transportation and car-centric architectures.

I tend to agree with you there, but that's not mostly due to an individual's (or group's) like or dislike of cars as a product.

Vast majority of developers/studios don't use any DRM at all.

Having the game wishlisted is a signal of players waiting for a sale, or future patches/correction, or simply not bothering to cleanup wishlist, not a signal of someone is eager to pirate the game.