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I have been using this for a couple of weeks and it has been very stable. Other than xfwl4 itself, the rest of the desktop has been the released XFCE 4.20 components. Already it is a better way of running XFCE on Wayland than using something like labwc I would say.

It is great to see a release. Hopefully more people will try it and give feedback so it can get into XFCE 4.22 by the end of the year.


Are you trying to tell me KDE requires you to configure wifi at the command line?

No. No, it absolutely does not.

I have used Plasma on at least four different distros in the past 2 months and that has not been true for any of them.


I used OpenSuse with KDE version just until 3 month ago and never had any wifi problems.

I ued the KDE OS before and had no problem.

I am currently using Bazzite (seeing if it is actually better than other Linux OSes) with KDE and never had a problem. Many problems occured, but wifi wasn't one of them.


Does it require? Maybe not if you do it one way vs the other way. Maybe if I had switch to Wayland before setting it up the first time? Who knows. All I know is I could NOT get it to work via the GUI like I had an hour prior. I tried several things. Eventually asked and read that it's a known bug. Maybe that's fake news. But I'm not a total moron and I couldn't get it to work without using the command line.

For example, I tried to forget and then reinput the password and connect. Would just time out. Maybe if I had forgot connection, restarted the computer, and then tried? I did restart, but not in that exact moment after forgetting but before trying again. Who knows.

Looking forward to GLM-5.2 in OpenCode.

But a lot of other people are going to happily shell out for Opus 4.8 at way higher prices.


I think it's out now - or do you mean as part of the Zen subscription?

The API GLM 5.2 launched last night with several providers on OpenRouter. I had a short conversation, didn't get to test much, but initial impressions "the vibes were good".


I think op is on the go sub, i m on the same we have glm5.1 but dont see glm5.2 yet

Been using GLM-5.2 in OpenCode since Saturday, what are you waiting for?

He certainly had to do a bit of heavy lifting but it is great seeing FreeBSD becoming usable on laptop.

I may consider trying to spin up FreeBSD on a non-essential machine just to give it a spin for a bit.


The K3 is a bit slower single core, about the same multi-core, and quite a bit faster at AI.

If you use the AI cores for general compute (eg. when compiling) then it is quite a bit faster than the RK3588.

At times, the above may vary as specific software may be less optimized on RISC-V.


“No excuse”

That is a bold prediction

It doesn't seem like a stretch. I don't know what you mean.

(You may disagree with the opinion of course, but "bold" is a counterintuitive adjective here)


No it is not.

How so?

It is kind of ironic that all the would be X successors waiting until Wayland took over before appearing.

Something like XLibre or Phoenix would have been taken very seriously 5 years ago.


I think it was only recently that Xorg started dying and Wayland became mostly usable for most people. That was when I switched over, and I assume a lot of others as well.

Why? Isn’t “waypipe ssh” more “the UNIX” way.

There is also wors.


You can do GUI over the network in multiple ways with Wayland.

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