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Closely related in pupopse, yes. Branded? no.

And there is no "censor" in the USA models at all!

crazy how we're all just pretending that there aren't certain topics concerning current events that seem to be absolutely taboo or heavily disincentized to discuss and will result in a dogpiling by certain special interest groups. we all know who they are and yet we all tacitly accept it.

Current events? Ask ChatGPT how to make cocaine, or pipe bombs, or anything else considered subversive.

Ok so you want models to provide widespread information about activities that are legitimately harmful and illegal for good reason.

And that’s the same as censoring a country’s violent history to you guys?

How intellectually dishonest.


It means they have the same levers somewhere in the training process. Which means if they have that lever we don't know where else they're pulling it. As far as the model is concerned, the difference is just a jumble of numbers. Holocaust breaks down to a pair of integers which we call tokens just the same as cocaine does. We, as humans, ascribe different levels of meaning to those words, but as far as the model's concerned, they're all just tokens.

Do you have any actual examples of political history being actively censored by western models? Or are we just doing hypotheticals for fun?

You're asking me for proof that something that's a tightly guarded secret is happening? I don't work at OpenAI or anything so I don't know why you think I'd have that. As far as doing it for fun, no, this is a serious matter to me, is it not for you?

Still, if you ask ChatGPT or Claude details on what's going on in the western bank, Israel and Gaza, there's a specific viewpoint being pushed. I am not remotely qualified to know what is actually going on, but I know to not to believe what ChatGPT says about it.


I was able to pull up an example of a Chinese model doing censorship in 2 seconds. So there is clearly a difference in the type of censorship happening if it’s harder than that for you to prove.

Your example is already under dispute by actual humans. Expecting non-AGI to get it right is not realistic.


Of course there is. Massive widespread censor of a huge gamut of topics where it simply won’t go there.

Please point to an example where the information (or more importantly its practical application) is both censored but is also not legitimately harmful and/or illegal.

[ "which opinions" goose meme :D ]

At this point, I still don't see a reason to use Opus. I'm happy with Sonnet's performance for a third of the price. Tried several times with not a big gain.


I wonder how this will help combat scammers. Do you really think they don’t have $25 for a fee?

Furthermore, this verification system also functions as a US sanction mechanism—one that can be triggered against any entity the US decides to ban.


Like needing to store IDE specific files?


> The problem is you may pay $20K for gibberish, then try a second time, fail again, and then hire humans.

You can easily pay humans $20k a day and get gibberish in output. Heck, this happen all the times. This happens right now in multiple companies.

Yes sometime humans produce nice code. This happens from time to time...


Same goes for the Google Family Link. There is no way to prevent kid accessing Google Play Store and spam You with requests...


At least with those requests you can disable notifications and nothing else happens.


Because it's id?

I mean slug is not important - id - is. https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Family/eating-carrots-make-childr...


NHibernate project stumbled upon much bigger break: https://github.com/nhibernate/nhibernate-core/issues/3651#is...

We force to use this workaround for now.


That workaround seems wild as hell.


Because they are not silent. Or sometimes are not. Inverters do have quite large fans.


This is a very frivolous argument against solar farms given the amount of noise and other pollution emanating from regular farms.

Farm-scale irrigation is not silent.

Crop Dusters are not silent.

Combines and other tractors are not silent.

Burning fields are both not silent and release a tremendous amount of sooty smoke that spreads far beyond the boundaries of a farm.

Farms make a lot of noise.


Crop dusters do not run 24/7, nor do the combines or other tractors.


Are solar panel inverter fans running at night?


Really? I had no idea! Thanks for clearing that up.


Compared to literally every other way of generating power, they are relatively silent and unobtrusive. They also don’t poison the air around them which is pretty neat.


Yes, but the relevant comparison for the residents isn't to a coal plant, it's to the undeveloped field that the solar arrays replaced.

Depending upon their other priorities, they may be upset about the loss of hunting access as well. Understandably, people putting up solar arrays don't want people firing guns in the middle of their arrays.


We have to make power somehow and they all want to use said power. It mostly just boils down to nimbyism at the end of the day. They are just unaware of (or don’t care about) areas like cancer alley where we dump all our mining/refining/processing/etc. in an already impoverished area that can’t push back the same way wealthy neighborhoods with social status can.


> and they all want to use said power

If I were to hazard a guess every person complaining would happily suffer the 'consequences' of a solar farm not being near their neighborhood.

It really should be a no brainer compromise to zone solar as industrial so they're not near where people live. There's in practice infinite amounts of land you can get zoned like this. Living to electrical noise sucks in a way living need next to a wind farm doesn't.


People put solar panels right on their roofs. Noise is not a major issue for solar. It is hardly an issue at all.


I mean you're not wrong, if I measured the sound with a microphone I bet an air conditioner would be twice as loud but at the same time I'm sure that air conditioner would also be louder than the electrical buzzing you hear when you live near the big wires. But here's the thing, arguing over whether or not the sound is tolerable (or worse having some government agency full of people who will never live next to these things declaring it tolerable) I think is the wrong battle to be fighting which is why I think it's a no-brainer compromise.

You won't have to hear it, you won't have to look at it except as way off in the distance, you won't have to worry about whether or not your buddy's farm is gonna get taken over by one when they run into financial troubles. Out your backyard you get to look at mostly pristine farmland and wilderness. During this time where there's political will and capital to just ban them outright I think this relatively small concession will make folks not put up too much in a fight as long as it's kept out of sight out of mind.


I have an air conditioner and I have solar panels. The air conditioner is not merely twice as loud. My air conditioner is 70 dbA and the solar panels are certainly below 30 dbA because I have never heard them make noise. The difference is multiple orders of magnitude.


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